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	<title>Comments on: 10 Reasons For Companies to Consider Web Standards</title>
	<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/</link>
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		<title>By: web design</title>
		<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>web design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 06:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we should really care about is keeping the customer happy and giving them solutions while making it easy for us to update and advance respectively. I think there should be balance between sticking to standards and swaying away from them. At the end of the day, "they are more like guidelines" than anything else ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we should really care about is keeping the customer happy and giving them solutions while making it easy for us to update and advance respectively. I think there should be balance between sticking to standards and swaying away from them. At the end of the day, &#8220;they are more like guidelines&#8221; than anything else <img src='http://www.webinmind.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Shlomi Fish</title>
		<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Shlomi Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article - I really liked it. I wrote something similar in my Web Publishing Using LAMP lecture's "Designing for Compatiblity" section. ( http://xrl.us/ni34 ). You give many other important arguments which I missed or generalised.

Like Tzafrir, I'm living in Israel, where many websites are horrifying as well. I had to switch banks because my original bank blocked Mozilla-based browsers. But the situation is getting a bit better, at least with the really important sites.

I talked with an American teen on the IRC, and he told me that most of the sites there are also of the sort that only works properly with MSIE. A Norwegian IRC correspondant said the  same thing about Norway. However, some American sites are large enough so they care enough about the minority, and also tend to employ more clueful programmers.

Thanks for the nice article! I'll mention it in my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article - I really liked it. I wrote something similar in my Web Publishing Using LAMP lecture&#8217;s &#8220;Designing for Compatiblity&#8221; section. ( <a href="http://xrl.us/ni34" rel="nofollow">http://xrl.us/ni34</a> ). You give many other important arguments which I missed or generalised.</p>
<p>Like Tzafrir, I&#8217;m living in Israel, where many websites are horrifying as well. I had to switch banks because my original bank blocked Mozilla-based browsers. But the situation is getting a bit better, at least with the really important sites.</p>
<p>I talked with an American teen on the IRC, and he told me that most of the sites there are also of the sort that only works properly with MSIE. A Norwegian IRC correspondant said the  same thing about Norway. However, some American sites are large enough so they care enough about the minority, and also tend to employ more clueful programmers.</p>
<p>Thanks for the nice article! I&#8217;ll mention it in my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Mashhoor Al Dubayan</title>
		<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Mashhoor Al Dubayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-47</guid>
		<description>Jinesh, I've checked Zeldman's approach; It's the same thing in my opinion. You're still using tables, which are meant for displaying tabular data, for the layout. It's never going to be as flexible nor as clear as a CSS-based layout's code. :)

Mustafa, I'm glad that you actually teach your students the right stuff. Each year we get more graduated students with lots of misconceptions about web design.

This is definitely a world-wide issue, but I've noticed that a few companies in different parts of the world already switched to CSS-based and standard compliant layouts, such as Windows Vista's website. Sure, it doesn't validate, but it did a pretty good job in my opinion. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jinesh, I&#8217;ve checked Zeldman&#8217;s approach; It&#8217;s the same thing in my opinion. You&#8217;re still using tables, which are meant for displaying tabular data, for the layout. It&#8217;s never going to be as flexible nor as clear as a CSS-based layout&#8217;s code. <img src='http://www.webinmind.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mustafa, I&#8217;m glad that you actually teach your students the right stuff. Each year we get more graduated students with lots of misconceptions about web design.</p>
<p>This is definitely a world-wide issue, but I&#8217;ve noticed that a few companies in different parts of the world already switched to CSS-based and standard compliant layouts, such as Windows Vista&#8217;s website. Sure, it doesn&#8217;t validate, but it did a pretty good job in my opinion. <img src='http://www.webinmind.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Kumar</title>
		<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-46</guid>
		<description>Great article!

jinesh is right, these are definetly applicable all over the planet. Im writing an article for a Norwegian website myself right now, and was looking for some inspiration, and this was it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!</p>
<p>jinesh is right, these are definetly applicable all over the planet. Im writing an article for a Norwegian website myself right now, and was looking for some inspiration, and this was it!</p>
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		<title>By: Mustafa Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Mustafa Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-45</guid>
		<description>Salaam Mashhoor,

great article and tips, I enjoyed reading it. I am also in KSA (teach at e-commerce &#38; web development KFUPM.edu.sa), went through some of your thoughts and MOST definately feel your pain. 

Actually I gave an assignment to my students to go through the TOP 100 companies in Saudi Arabia and see just how many of their sites are following web standards. It is a sad scenario. E-Mail me sometime, mfahmed at kfupm dot edu dot sa - there are companies I know that are looking for "good" developers.

Mustafa Ahmed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam Mashhoor,</p>
<p>great article and tips, I enjoyed reading it. I am also in KSA (teach at e-commerce &amp; web development KFUPM.edu.sa), went through some of your thoughts and MOST definately feel your pain. </p>
<p>Actually I gave an assignment to my students to go through the TOP 100 companies in Saudi Arabia and see just how many of their sites are following web standards. It is a sad scenario. E-Mail me sometime, mfahmed at kfupm dot edu dot sa - there are companies I know that are looking for &#8220;good&#8221; developers.</p>
<p>Mustafa Ahmed</p>
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		<title>By: jinesh</title>
		<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>jinesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice article...the reasons you outlined for not switching are valid for a lot of countries besides saudi arabia as well.

developing corporate sites or applications sometimes requires us to support really old browsers like ie5.0 or even netscape 4.5(!) where using css for positioning is not an option.

for such cases, you might like to refer to jeffery zeldman's hybrid approach (http://www.zeldman.com/dwws/read/) where tables are used to provide structure and css for styling.

with broadband becoming widely available, i'm sure we'll see more people upgrading their browsers or switching to opera/firefox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice article&#8230;the reasons you outlined for not switching are valid for a lot of countries besides saudi arabia as well.</p>
<p>developing corporate sites or applications sometimes requires us to support really old browsers like ie5.0 or even netscape 4.5(!) where using css for positioning is not an option.</p>
<p>for such cases, you might like to refer to jeffery zeldman&#8217;s hybrid approach (http://www.zeldman.com/dwws/read/) where tables are used to provide structure and css for styling.</p>
<p>with broadband becoming widely available, i&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll see more people upgrading their browsers or switching to opera/firefox.</p>
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		<title>By: Mashhoor Al Dubayan</title>
		<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Mashhoor Al Dubayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-43</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the feedback Egor and Shani. :)

nomo, I'm going to show some samples this week. What do you mean by "web design links" though? like web design companies?

Tzafrir, I'm preparing an Arabic version of this article to post it in a technical Arabic blog, even though i'm certian that there will be little to no interest. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback Egor and Shani. <img src='http://www.webinmind.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>nomo, I&#8217;m going to show some samples this week. What do you mean by &#8220;web design links&#8221; though? like web design companies?</p>
<p>Tzafrir, I&#8217;m preparing an Arabic version of this article to post it in a technical Arabic blog, even though i&#8217;m certian that there will be little to no interest. <img src='http://www.webinmind.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tzafrir Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Tzafrir Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-42</guid>
		<description>You complain about the lack of Arabic texts. Where can one find the text of this article in Arabic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You complain about the lack of Arabic texts. Where can one find the text of this article in Arabic?</p>
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		<title>By: nomo</title>
		<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>nomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you any examples of those websites? and have you some webdesign links of saudi arabia?   thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you any examples of those websites? and have you some webdesign links of saudi arabia?   thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Shani</title>
		<link>http://www.webinmind.net/2006/06/16/10-reasons-for-companies-to-consider-web-standards/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Shani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, 
I'm doing it allready, but i hope it will help others to do it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article,<br />
I&#8217;m doing it allready, but i hope it will help others to do it <img src='http://www.webinmind.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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